Joel Madden sits down with Sum 41’s Deryck Whibley for a raw, reflective conversation about survival, identity, and what it really takes to rebuild your life. Deryck opens up about his near-death experience, sobriety, and the mindset shift that transformed both his music and personal journey, while the two revisit their shared history coming up in bands, navigating labels like “pop punk,” and staying true to who they are through decades in the industry. From injuries and burnout to stoicism, therapy, and emotional growth, this episode is an honest look at resilience, perspective, and closing one chapter to step into the next.